On this episode, Danielle's husband Cory joins the conversation to discuss marriage, relationships, polyamory, open marriages, ethical non-monogamy, porn, and so much more.

Chris Terrell joins Danielle for this conversation. We discuss Chris' upbringing and how that helped form who he is right now. He shares his views on what he sees between outliers and insiders. We share agreement in the idea of Oneness and how everything is connected. He asks the question: "What if we are all wrong?" What happens when it comes down to agreeability and disagreeability and why that shouldn't determine "family" and connection. He explains how he doesn't see things as "right or wrong" but more so in terms of what is "mature" and what is "immature." We talk about how movies influence mimesis, how despite primary focus, there is so much that is not attended to when the demands are to keep us attentive on things that really don't matter. We discuss how disagreement is diversity and why love either isn't a distraction at all or maybe it's THE distraction we all need.

To connect with Chris Terrell, you can visit his social media page here: https://www.facebook.com/chris.terrell.900


Episode 50!!!!

Today's special guest is my dear friend Emishi Ashitaka. We begin by shooting the shit and sharing some thoughts we have about current events. Emishi and I have been friends for several years but we allow each other space to be different and that's what makes our friendship so multi-faceted.

We tackle coronavirus, farmer's woes, what engineering is about, normalized reactivity, Kanye West v. Taylor Swift, Cool Hand Luke: We have a failure to communicate, Sci-fi theology, how strength is an illusion, circles of alignment, Logos, how to protest, why sometimes people are stupid, and why wives make their men sandwiches.

To connect with Emishi Ashitaka, you can find him on Facebook.



Right now would be a great time to switch gears and throw a little love out for your listening pleasure. I recorded this conversation awhile back. I am sure many of you are familiar with my next guest. Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, Oord teaches at institutions around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation.

The topic is centered on the question I asked Thomas, which was “Do you have an eros theology?” To which he responded, “Yes, I do!”

Thomas shares the synopsis of his book God Can’t

What does it look like to rethink God’s power and consider God’s love as uncontrollable? He then breaks down what relational theology looks like.

“Love has to be the center of theology.”

“I wanted to have a definition of love.”

“To love is to act intentionally in relational response to God and others; to promote overall well-being.”

“Love is constantly asking the question: What Promotes the common good?”

“Is it OK if we talk some about sex on this show? Let me go on some wild directions…”

Can pleasure promote well-being? What about masturbation? Is vulnerability easier within monogamy?

We discuss polyamory, why eros is the umbrella, and eroticism is the sub-category. Whitehead’s influence on Oord, “reality is comprised of events…” and more.

In this episode, Danielle reveals the story behind the duo Tinder accounts within her marriage, what stresses and benefits it has created, and why loving others is the great call to heal the world. Explore some ideas outside the constraints of societal constructs meant to keep us controlled and confused. Why does limiting our love prevent us from healing the world? What is intimacy and why do we need more of it with one another.


June 2, 2020

Suffocating the Spirit

Danielle's monologue- confessions of a negative energy holder. Why none of us can breathe but why we were created to do just that.

Sam Kratzer joins the conversation today to share his views on moral relativism. Sam is a philosopher, a husband, and a father of twins. He's a long time friend of mine and in this episode, we dig deep into philosophy.

How is truth constructed?

What's dangerous about Ayn Rand's Objectivism, what's dangerous about moral relativism, and what does philosophy reveal about life and the psyche?

We discuss the principled approach to viewing consumption, why absolute claims are hard to prove, and why Dawkins is an atrocious theologian but a luminescent biologist.

Sam explains why he is motivated by results and why that makes him a utilitarian.

We tip-toe into understanding the Trump base and why it feels good to be part of a group.

Tiger King comes up, AGAIN!

"I'm fairly uncomfortable with strong forms of relativism—they're a little dangerous."

"It's easier to be unconscious."

"I think a lot of people are profoundly insecure in their own beliefs."

"The scariest thing in the world to us is someone who is smart and well-intentioned and believes the exact opposite of what we do."

"I have to believe that anyone who disagrees with me is either evil or stupid or both because I cannot imagine anything scarier than that not being trie because that means that I might be wrong."

"We prefer nefarious order rather than chaos" and that's why we gravitate toward "conspiracy theories."

Alvin Plantinga, echo chambers, dualism and more.

Enjoy the show.

Dion Mcneil joins the conversation today to wrap up the Compassionate Conservative series.

Dion is a journalist, combat veteran, and a Trump supporter.

We discuss criticisms of Trump, communism failures, Preppers, socialism failures, why the Democrats don't have anybody, and why immigration impacts other countries adversely. Dion shares his views from the black community, we touch on the Black Panther Party, and how we can effect change at a local, national, and federal level by voting with our wallets.

For more of Dion's work, check out https://thedailycounter.com/mission-statement/
You can also find him on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dion.mcneil.353


David Cubbedge joins the conversation today. He is a Trump supporter, a welding inspector, a Christian, and a lover of humanity.

David shares why he has a love for everyone, why he doesn't have enough education to reject climate change and recognizes that things that are done with our tax dollars are "evil."

David shares his what insight he gleaned from Come Sunday and The Shack.

He likens holding on to bad theology to holding onto an insurance policy. 

Judgment = fear

We learn from others through dialogue.

It's beautiful to know the truth about yourself.

Account for your beliefs.


How can we check our offenses at the door?

All this and more. Listen and find out.

To connect with David Cubbedge, you can find him on Facebook.




The Compassionate Conservative Series Premiere begins with Pastor Jeremy Evans.

The last 4 years have brought about a search to understand the Trump Voter. Researchers and pontificators have offered their guesses and opinions as to why a person would vote for Trump. The societal confidence in calling those we don’t know racists, misogynists, sexists, homophobes, and evil is concerning, to say the least, and primarily one of the reasons I felt compelled to host this series.

Today, you will meet Pastor Jeremy Evans. He is socially progressive but voted for Trump in the 2016 election. He explains why he voted for Trump. Have his views changed? Listen and find out.

Today, the conversation includes:

  • [The Media] wants our attention they don’t necessarily report the truth.
  • I am tired of being told to hate people that I don’t know
  • We probably have more in common than we think we do.
  • What I like about Trump.
  • Mimetic Theory- Trump the Scapegoat
  • If you’re a Trump supporter, you are all these things.
  • Collective brokenness discharges pain and shame.
  • “The things we see in others that bother us are the things we deny the existence of within ourselves.”
  • “I believe the best about people, even if they don’t deliver their best or aren’t willing to extend the courtesy, because I don’t see how the world can function any other way.”
  • “I hope there’s an intellectual renaissance.”
  • Trump is a great seducer.
  • “What would we do if we have to change the way we feel about people if we identify ourselves by how we feel about people?”
  • CoronaVirus theories, culling the herd, psychedelics, ecstasy, mushrooms and more.


To connect with Pastor Jeremy Evans:

Find him on Facebook

The Dusty Disciple Blog: http://www.authorjeremyevans.us/


April 25, 2020


First, a mini monologue about Reconstructing of the Mind, and a little hat tip to author Todd Vick. Danielle asks the question: "What is normal?"

Do we know what normal is? Will there ever be a new normal?

What kind of paradigm will we reconstruct post-CoronaVirus?

The segue from renewal and reconstruction introduces the second Dr. G segment. Leslie Goth, PsyD joins the show again, and she asks Danielle, "When do you first learn about sex?"

We discuss some new research that demonstrates porn addiction, perhaps, is just a myth. Dr. Goth tackles the topic of pornography and reveals what's underneath the draw of the escape from reality.

This is a vulnerable episode that dives into sexuality and relationships.

April 13, 2020

Psychedelic Christianity

This episode welcomes philosopher, writer, and president of the Institute for the Advancement of Psychedelic Christianity, Jack Call. Jack is the author of 4 books: Dreams and Resurrection, God is a Symbol of Something True, Life in a Psychedelic Church, and Psychedelic Christianity. Today, we discuss his philosophy, including how psychedelic drugs brought him closer to Christianity and God.

Jack introduces us to the Boo Hoo Bible, the cultish practice of Psychedelic Christianity, and solipsistic nihilism. We discuss what’s out of our control and what’s basic and in our control.

“I don’t want to say that God is just a concept…God accounts for the fact that there are things aren’t under our control, but something—somebody gets them done.”

Call went from conceptualizing God in a depersonalized reality, similarly to the style and philosophy of Alan Watts, but gradually moved toward an understanding that God is personal and our relationship with God is part of the Ultimate Goal.

What is the Ultimate Goal? Jack pulls apart the varying layers of what the goal is and how we can achieve it.  

Jack takes us through the journey of the Dream Analogy and we talk about what it could be like to die. Is there an afterlife? What does the afterlife look like? What does this reveal or contribute to transformation? We imagine together.

Jack explains why the parable of the lost sheep is anti-utilitarian and what we can do instead, to bring about the Kingdom and maintain right relationship with God.

“The highest goal would be for ourselves to stop doing the wrong thing because we do understand that is it the wrong thing. And we love God and our neighbor as ourselves. And that’s what would be loving about the Kingdom of God. It’s when I stop doing something unjust because I realize it’s unjust. When I ask for forgiveness because I realize what I’ve done is wrong…I’m not saying we shouldn’t have any laws…The Kingdom of God is not about forcing anyone to do anything.”

This episode is for the lovers of philosophy and imaginative conceptions and possibilities.


To connect with Jack Call, first, check out his book collection.



Then, find him on Facebook:




Janitor and President of the Institute for the Advancement of Psychedelic Christianity, Jack Call was a clergyman in the Neo-American Church for six years, worked as a typesetter for 11 years, earned a Ph.D. in philosophy from Clarement Graduate University, and taught philosophy at Citrus College for 19 years. He has published essays on the relations between philosophy, religion, and social science, and books on philosophy and religion. He lives with his wife in Whittier, California.


Today's episode features yours truly, Danielle Kingstrom, lifting off the superficial positivity and venting out frustrations. Are you just as irritated and infuriated by the global fakeness fuckery that is spreading faster than the Coronavirus? Get comfy, I go off. Enough with the sugar-coating, it's time for tough love. Our liberty is at stake as well as our dignity. Pay attention!

Today's guest is Kyle Butler. He is a former congregational preacher who has evolved not only his faith but his mode of delivery. I'd like to call him a social preacher. Kyle had an early life ministering in the church, ordained at just 21 and pastoring over the church he grew up in by 26. In 2008, he began a spiritual transformation that led him to embrace a revelation of grace and God's unconditional love. It was this trajectory that led him to understand that he could free himself of the religious dogma to fully embody love and share the message of unconditional grace.

This conversation dives deep. We begin by Kyle sharing the story of his love and reverence for church and God and what turning points in his life revealed a bigger picture than he was prepared to imagine. From there, Kyle helps me understand his position presentation without argumentation. I confront Kyle about something he shared on his social media that rubbed me the wrong way, initially. He breaks down why he doesn't feel obligated to state his cause and argue with scripture or translation to convince someone of what he believes.

"I want you to be at peace. But if you believe that God has a fire pit and he's gonna throw people inside that fire pit one day—if that gives you peace—I don't care anymore. If that gives you peace, that's perfectly okay because I don't have to live in your head."

The conversation continues as we both share why we don't care about the labels. Kyle's controversial claims begin revealing themselves in statements such as: "I don't think God cares what we think about God."

Kyle reveals an interesting perspective on politics—one that I happen to agree with.

"We do not have to take this so seriously. I don't think there's a politician alive who is fighting for you the way you fight for them... They're not going to charge the chambers and demand justice for me."

As Kay Fairchild once said, "love is never offended." If you can listen without offense, you might be able to compassionately consider the perspective of Kyle Butler.

To connect with Kyle Butler:




This episode explores a concern tweeted by Matt Walsh and asks further questions about the Church. During a pandemic, isn't a church the one place you expect to see open, administering to its flock? What kind of sheep have we turned into?

This episode welcomes Provost Professor Fritz Breithaupt. He is a professor at Indiana University Bloomington. He founded and directs the Experimental Humanities Laboratory at IU and is the author of The Dark Sides of Empathy. This conversation focuses in on how empathy is impacted by a global pandemic. Can we suffer an empathy exhaustion? Does anxiety make us empathetic, or less? How do empaths handle this kind of devastating crisis? If we are unable to provide relief for another, does that impact our empathy extension overall? Can isolation impact our empathy? These questions and others are discussed in this episode.

To connect with Fritz Breithaupt and keep up with his ongoing work, check out these websites.




Find The Dark Sides of Empathy on Amazon.



Philosophy from an allergic reaction. What's the pandemic doing to us? The importance of connection and a new kind of intimacy. Are we prepared? Why is the lie of lack winning out? What is fear and how can we push back against it? Do we need a scapegoat or do we need compassion? What does changing our minds reveal? Have we seen repentance on positions of the pandemic? Is that a demonstration of humility?

March 23, 2020

Underdeveloped Love

This week's episode welcomes Nora Speakman to the conversation. Nora is a writer, podcaster, and speaker. We discuss her upcoming book, Underdeveloped Love, and her new project with Alexander John Shaia: Shaia-Speakman House.

To connect with Nora:



You can find Nora on Facebook, and her podcast "The Nora Speakman Podcast" is available wherever you get your pods.

Enjoy the episode!

Episode 34 welcomes Julie McVey. She’s the author of Why I Left Church to Find Jesus: A Personal Odyssey. We discuss Julie’s journey through transformation and how it impacted her lens on life. Why was she accused of being “deceived by the devil” and what happened after she was warned that she was “going to get into trouble”? From ECT to Universalism, Julie shares her “Messy Musings.”



Julie lives with her loving husband, two precious sons, and two devoted dogs in sunny Southern California. She received a Master of Science degree from CSUN in 1999. She sees herself as a fellow traveler among many on a transformational journey. Her passions are family, relationships, creative awareness, and spiritual discoveries. She finds writing to be therapeutic and a wonderful way to share her humanity, her heart, and her journey with others.


Her book is available at Amazon.




To connect with Julie, please visit her website.





Episode 33 welcomes writer and podcaster Ben DeLong. He is the author of There’s a God in My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces our Skeletons and the host of The God in My Closet podcast.

The conversations focus on the premise behind Ben’s book, which is that God loves us and all of our skeletons and nothing can separate us from the love of God.

Our discussion begins by unfolding Ben’s previous porn addiction. He bravely confronts his addictions by entering into a shame-free space surrounded and embraced by a loving God of grace. From facing the depressed elephant in the room to walking on eggshells, and greeting the truth of our redeemable quality, Ben shares his story of understanding the self by greeting the Inner Child and learning how to heal his wounds knowing he was never forsaken or abandoned.

We also talk about politics, presence, and Ben shares a few practices that have helped him learn to eat from the Tree of Life and why eating from the Tree of the Knowledge Between Good and Evil isn’t as nutritious as we think.

Listeners, I ask that you please compassionately consider the perspective of Ben DeLong.

You can learn more about Ben and connect with him through Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ben.delong.73

Or by visiting his website:



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